I can hardly believe that after more than 30 years Churches Together in Crayford cannot get police support to carry the cross of Jesus along the roads.

I wonder if mr cameron would call this religious disrcimination or a gathering of concerned stakeholders excercising their right to celebrate their God on a globally recognised festival?

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Comment by John Woodhouse on April 8, 2012 at 16:48

I hope you went ahead and policed it yourselves? The police seemed happy enough to allow processions to do that!

Comment by Tony Duke on April 10, 2012 at 16:57

That would have been the simple solution but with health and safety concerns and a lack of hi vis jackets it was decided to modify the procession to a stroll up the hill.

Thank God Jesus didn't carry out a risk assessment before entering Gethsemane, I can't help feeling that some christians have lost the Way.

 

 

Comment by John Woodhouse on April 10, 2012 at 18:38

Next year get some jackets - I think they can be hired and forget health and safety. As long as you stay on the pavement and take care crossing roads with stewards there should be no problem. You should complain to the police authority - what are the police for any way? Community support officers could do this but your own stewards will be just as good.

Comment by Tony Duke on April 11, 2012 at 8:51
Thank you for your advice and for sharing current best practice but traditionally our procession walked along the roads of Crayford and to be bound by pavements doesn't quite seem the same.

It brings to mind january 3 2009 when we gatheredd on the banks of the thames, i remember lots of stewards, hi vis jackets and a police presence that was more than visible.

I guess tradition must move with the times or is it a question of common purpose?

Thank God for His living Word that guides us by Truth eternal 2 Peter 2 1-3
Comment by Syd Bill on April 11, 2012 at 16:48

In fairness to local police I know they have had so many financial and personnel cuts over the past few years

that in many towns they are unable to provide escorts for processions. We lossed that help with One World Week in Burton upon Trent a long time ago. I reckon procession organisers need to be aware of this change and do some pre planning which includes stewarding and St Johns.ambulance

Hope this doesn't prevent future efforts and witness.

Comment by Tony Duke on April 12, 2012 at 0:21

In fairness, I understand the pressures local police can be facing with limited resources but they were initially contacted in January with plans for the event on Good Friday yet after numerous follow ups didn't have the courtesy to respond until the 2nd April which of course left no time to make alternative arrangements.

Somehow I can't help feeling that this goes beyond mere budgetary restraints and is indicative of a wider malaise that threatens the fabric of our society.

This year sees the Diamond Jubilee of Her Majesty the Queen, defender of the Faith but if we do not bear witness to the Truth what faith shall she defend?

Comment by Syd Bill on April 12, 2012 at 11:49

Hmm! I have recently found that it is very difficult to know how or where to

communicate with those I thought were our local police in a local police station,

My emails seemed to have gone round the County before reaching somebody

who replied. Finally ending up with a phone call from a local officer; don't know

why I couldn't have communicated with him in the first place.

I don't think that was HM's fault.

Comment by John Woodhouse on April 12, 2012 at 12:13

This is a worrying trend. I used to be Neighbourhood watch panels and knew local officers well. The decision to rationalise all of these onto one evening meant that I could not attend the meetings any longer! We all depend on emails nowadays and it should be made clear who one should contact in the first instance! I should try a complaint to your local police authority.

Comment by Syd Bill on April 12, 2012 at 17:30

You make a good point about compaining to a local police authority. Maybe I will try to find out who is on such a body but don't expect to find local people ie who live in Burton upon Trent or East Staffordshire.

In the case I mentioned I had emailed the Chief Constable only to wait many weeks for the email to trickle down,

finally back to the local police. By the way this was on an interfaith matter.

Comment by Tony Duke on April 13, 2012 at 17:11

I thought the buck stopped with HM.

Maybe she should use this year to reassert the precepts of her faith then ask her government if the armed forces could be re-deployed to distribute the 7 million tonnes of waste food we produce each year to the starving people in the world but i guess this would upset the people who are really in charge and who exploit global resources to amass vast fortunes.

This may be one world but it sure isn't one fair world.

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